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for our last session on on the issue of the the final the final Journey how Judy is addictive eyes the passage are we thought would be great to introduce some people who are tell various levels of involvement in an African nation became religious true Chabad in South Beach the dumb one off to Israel study didn't even far Chabad that later in business Works without reaching the old city for a few years and then came back here and an interesting experience that I had has a fever student sort of directed me in the split of my career my also involving kashrut and I've been my first came back I was working with Rabbi Groner was the head of the Miami-Dade vaud and rabbit Cora from rubber weberman's what used to be the RC doing their kashrut working then later with KSA in the end now with the okay go to the wholeness I was involved but I had an interesting experience when I was starting out to hear in Miami in the ever since I basically and the founder of a hybrid Isha run the heavy katisha here and South for the Chabad organization formed one in Broward and formed the one here in Palm Beach County will be a three branches Barbara and very busy how I got involved sore from the trysting story at the ripe old age of probably about 24 I had when I was learning your Medical College it South Beach we were very much involved in Outreach programs we are trying always to get two different two young men involved in the same learning we were doing many guys beginners from what they say all of this from the beginning of Learning and we took these young men we'd invite them for Shabbos so happen to be one of the students is now lives in spas in his Arab by himself had a cousin and his cousin was totally non-observant and we said you know you should come and see what a Shabbos is like what is Destiny Siva stay with us for shotless and will be an interesting experience for you and the boy actually agreed that was fine unfortunately he made a deal like on Thursday of that week to buy a motorcycle and it was his first motorcycle that he owned and he was right side to get it so instead of coming to us Friday night he called last I canceled and why in the truth was because he wanted to go out and have fun with his new motorcycle unfortunately the fun ended up in a riffic accident and the Young I think maybe 20 years old was not only killed but the same angle  so the remains were taken to Riverside Funeral Home South Beach which was about six blocks away from RE Shiva and back then of my beach there was not about every Kenisha and they wanted us to handle this through a Chabad have an issue because really Cora from liter people would been involved with this boy and we wanted to make sure that was done by our troops weekly wanted to be involved and they started to get involved with the process of going in to take care of the remains and the boys never really been Volve mhr's and certainly never been involved in such a horrific case many were afraid to go in volleyball people even for experienced guys this was not an easy case now a side note when I was in college I needed work and I was very interested in photography and public relations so I took a job City of Miami Beach and I taking a course in college I took every College photography course I took a course called police for they had cheap equipment you've nothing they sponsored all your equipment and was a great course and for technical stuff in it and so I did this got to Michael from the city might Beach for the from the college this is a Miami-Dade course he for what University of Miami and Ike I got a certificate saying police photography graduate so I went to see my Beachwood I wanted a job with the mayor as a public relations they didn't have a job to give me a job temporarily if the police department I spent the next I'm 6 months of my life while in college taking pictures of crime scene so when it came to the door of the situation that didn't bother me but I went through a bike or twisting head of Chabad and I said to be involved in this I know that I broke you have to be a year or shamaya and I don't really feel I've only been that I'm not that religious for that long I don't feel really I mean you're some I am that I should be involved in such a holy acts that don't worry when you walk through that door you'll be in yours you're mine so Rabbi Lieberman had asked me since he knew that I had a little bit of experience in these things if I would help form the Broward County cover kadeesha and we were the first like Flume never Headey show this is Ori 22 years ago and then Dade County or you had to cover in the South and wanted level Weinstein then so we pour me another pepper TV show for her bottom to help the other I'm not affiliated the funeral homes and that's going for the last 22 years of my life for you imagine yourself as a  as a how to buy  you just come to the religion you don't know how you don't have any background  and of course you try to catch up with but the result is that you're you're sort of alienated whether you want to be or not I did anyway I feel that way I felt it when I wasn't sure what's the one person here that didn't understand the Hebrew  the daveney was relatively meaningless to me because I didn't understand the Hebrew also because the format of the auditing was not natural to me so I felt sort of excluded  probably the most important  factor in my getting over that was my service in the Fabrica thinks you because once I was trained by Rabbi and I started training others and I got good at it even have my own little kid of things that they don't give you when you walk in the door are they might run out of like orange sticks if you need to clean it in the house and cell phone  suddenly I was an expert in a part of Judaism and it was very very reinforcing to know that I could do something that most most Orthodox Jews can't do minion don't even know anything about it  there are training it at all that was that was a very important thing to me  and I thought of that in preparation for the I wondered whether that was unusual and I realized there Narcan are Habra  probably the most dedicated member the fellow showed up for every call and take on two and three in a night if necessary was a convert a recent convert can I figure he had the same feeling this is his chance to catch up in a sentence  so in that way the fabric Edition work are they e tires made me feel fully qualified member of the community I went to a talk show that is I was invited to a dog show by a rabbi  and you ask me what how I felt play me to the Hara he was not prepared for the answer  I said I feel elated  couldn't imagine that why do you feel elated balacera stand there and I think to myself this is Stella  they can do no more for him  what all the doctors giving up when they pull the plugs and all the machines couldn't do anything more I can do one more thing fan and it makes me feel terrific that's another aspect of it funny I'll tell you a little story about a friend of ours a top attorney in New York who is in our heaven please join the very condition and on his first tahara I accompanied him because I always did I always accompany the new piece I picked him up at his house and took him over to the to the ever Kenisha end  players finish we drove home and he was totally silent I was going to break into the silence when I got them he stopped trying to maybe said what religion George if we have to be so careful of the Dead Overcomer how careful we have to be of the living  you sure there are great lessons to be learned by serving on a have a good day shift that's it I'm going to soon as you walk into that room your mind has to shift it's like I kind of do it on purpose but it's does it anyways and you think like you're just here for this one thing you just have to like be there you know deal with the body try to elevate it do as what you can to try bring it to the next World then to like have that responsibility is incredible and I'm blessed that I'm able to be able to good cuz not everyone can but it's something that I'm so happy I joined I've been doing it for two and a half years and I don't know it's just incredible for me that I feel like I can get back and I never really wanted to like shout it to the rooftops at this is kind of weird for me to have him telling all these people but yeah it's just it's giving me a different kind of fulfillment in life in a different view on humanity and life  I want to sing romantic roll for dedicating hours to educate us about such an important topic I'm about hover katisha and reflecting and everything we have learned this time and I feel appreciative and grateful to have the opportunity to listen and learn from knowledgeable rabbis and individuals about a huge Mitzvah like the responsibility we have as the Jewish people after learning about this and after learning about this inspiring Mitzvah I now feel so educated and I'm bluffed it to hopefully one day have the strength to participate from this point on on behalf of the senior girls I would like to say that we have been so touched by this app and I hope one day we will all active leaders in our community make sure this Mitzvah lives on forever session that we've had with with you guys some of them have been so if I can know whether there be lectures classes one of them was a day when she went to went to the funeral home on one of the things that I I'm curious what I'm actually turning it over to the audience just to hear what you think I feel a little bit like described little bit of tension between the hand feeling like I feel really good like you guys like learned a lot about tahara and you know end-of-life issues on the other had also like oh my God you beef like fan like over and over again I'm not enough already you've been dating over talking about death and dying and taharas and I go on to the next thing might be doing this so much I kind of like like that tension I think it's important I think that you know part of the thing that you know I ruffled how much is before things we've been talking about initially was whether or not we should have it you know what day make spread the eight sessions out over 2 months and do like one play week of something we felt that as well mention that that would be you wouldn't get the point then be a little bit too spread out you wouldn't be sort of speak I live in sick of it there's something about being sick of it almost which I feel like maybe we will understand we will remember better maybe we'll know more about it in and just want a certain weight I kind of like a like the feeling that enough already when I say that I feel like you kind of like have gone through a process but you guys we're actually now I think I think it's fair to say that you guys know more about the process of tahara than any other high school kids in the world I know I certainly feel like when we're talking to the three of you you got the sense of what a what an important part of our Jewish lives it is and what and how important the impact is on our whole identity it's like I feel like great having like you guys that know all this stuff now and you like it's part of like you know your knowledge face and it's something that nobody else people does don't have so I like as my final sort of word go as as we're custom closing out the the the sessions cuz I want turn out the like that like thank you guys for your like Avid participation and involvement want to think Rock for Hort for her spearheading everything I want to thank our panelists for braving the Ritz traffic your own emotional like you know no ability to tip too kind of like be be out there about be upfront about about your involvement in the South want to thank everybody for a front for me was like a like a wonderful experience of the past all the past couple weeks of it really that we that we engaged in this and I want I want to thank you guys for the really for the maturity and the the interest but you would gauge loan processor so I want to thank you very much and I also just want to you know that might be maybe 5 minutes I'm just curious then we can be here if you don't like me can edit it off camera if you don't if it if it's not the kind of thing that you'd want to be made public if you'll see I'm just open up the door like you know reflect a little bit like mullahs what what was good what would you like would you would you have soared like learn about this process that you may not have known previously and just like the kind of close it out a little bit just to hear from you guys just hear from some of the most guys only think Ellen for her on four countries as well honey Fox  yes I already said when we spoke about having a class I thought it was just going to revolve around staff and just with a depressing type of a class but you're really makes you reflect on you just think about life more than you know what you want to do and what for why I should focus on me but it's just there's no song all I can have a 4 and I feel like I'm prepared if I ever coming to situation like that again I'm glad that we did it in a daze and not spread out the kind of like drilled into our brain like I think oh yeah I know I'm pretty sure can I was I know and I don't want to know when we I'm pretty confident that in the year 2035 when we have your 20 year reunion like not to be reminiscing about the tire I thought but I'm pretty confident that I will be able to come to each of you and will be able to talk about this and you will remember this I daresay maybe even a little bit more than what you didn't tell her about pack with me last year email we had the whole year on it it's been whole you're doing kashrut last year that was last year and I turned out he wasn't to yours last year was my first year yes I moved here a year ago because my first year 11 so you might not some of you might some of you might remember that but I'm saying I really feel like this is a this announcement this is going to be the kind of thing that you will remember you will remember light years from now that we did this sort of a series of classes I feel good with that anything else tell me that like two small things are really so important because I just seemed like I didn't even know about like now hearing about I like that you really like play the heel are like physical body but we never really know take pride in our physical body ever really complete it's all about this so not about the physical stuff and then when now is this holy cover Felicia think it's crazy how much care we take of the body even when it's so separate from the Silicon dead or so was not there being outside in a room so I was so interesting how we still take such care of a body that I thought we liked do you think you could have made a hundred percent your said you could have imagined that we would say like actually don't worry about the body cuz we were at the soul your your once you've done okay you can't do that your spiritual and see you think it's interesting to know that we do take such good because you could imagine you know like you know a religion let's same like you know what the lights over don't worry about him well it looks like you're now free I go to like the fact that we take care of this Soul something is not in particular the body's not necessary something to be all that intuitive that's okay I guess Judaism take on like but I'm more burial cuz you know that's thing that everybody has to deal with cuz everybody dies even if you're Jewish or not and like some of the things I thought were interesting that everybody's buried in the in the unto him everybody's buried in the same thing so like we're kind of leaving this world everybody in the same way just like how he came in same way if no matter what your social status or no matter how wealthy you were how poor you are so I thought like some that stuff is interesting just to see how like me all my classmates will not all of them stop very uncomfortable know the specific they just got uncomfortable visit Steph and Seth isn't a comfortable subjects so now in the future we will all be able to talk about it and no

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